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Footpath Matters

We have vacancies for two Area (Ward) Footpath Wardens, one for Cray Valley (East and West) and the other for Chelsfield and Pratts Bottom. The posts entail walking all the footpaths in the Area once each year and notifying me of their condition and any problems. Please contact me if you are able to take on one of these roles or would like to know more about what is involved. 

If you come across a problem with a footpath in Kent, Surrey, East or West Sussex you can report the problem on the County Council’s web sites. If you can note the OS grid reference and take a photo that can be useful. Here are the links to their websites:

http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/countryside_and_coast/report_a_problem.aspx

http://surreymaps.surreycc.gov.uk/gisapps/rowdefect1.asp

http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/countryside/rightsofway/default.htm

http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/leisure/getting_around_west_sussex/footpaths_and_bridleways/public_rights_of_way_feedback.aspx

 If you find a problem on a footpath within the Bromley Borough you can phone or email Andrew King, Rights of Way Officer on Andrew.King@bromley.gov.uk 020 8464 3333 (main switchboard) 

Please also let me know so I can keep an eye on the matter. 

Philip Wall

 

Kent Area
Neville Machin, Chairman of Kent Area, has asked for the following to be drawn to the attention of as many members of Bromley Ramblers as possible.

Supporting the work of Kent Area
In order to the meet the coming challenges facing the Kent Area we are looking for help to fill two posts supporting the Area Secretary, both post report to the Area Secretary for the provision of the following services.

Area Administration officer
Arranging Area Council (AC) meetings- these meetings take place four times per year, planned a year ahead and usually at the same place friends Meeting House Union Street, Maidstone. Preparing and distributing agendas and accompanying papers for the meetings to an agreed time table, most of this is done electronically. Taking and drafting the of the AC minutes for finalisation by the Area Management Team.

Events Coordinator
Identifying and planning publicity events around the Area, where we would like to have a presence. Liaising with Area and Group officers, about these events, to ensure that they are supported and manned by volunteers from the relevant Group and Area officers. Ensuring display equipment is in good order, available for the various activities and arrange for delivery and collection.

If you are interested and wish to discuss the opportunity further, please contact Neville Machin, Area Chairman on 01322 864277 or at 
nmachin@msn.com

 

Message from the Kent Area Chairman

Save Our Footpaths
Kent County Council is conducting a survey about the services they provide and what residents of Kent value, this will be used to help them to decide where the coming spending cuts are to be made. This will appear in the forthcoming edition of Around Kent and on its website. This is an opportunity for Ramblers to have our say as to why money should be continue to be spent on maintaining our footpaths.

The link is

http://www.kent.gov.uk/static/surveys/yourvoiceyourservices/yourvoiceyourservices.htm
 
There are three questions: two of which you may like to answer along the following lines.

Q1 Which services do you value most and why?
The footpaths and countryside access.
Because it is a recreation facility which is widely available across the County, free at point of use, it improves the health of the community and makes a positive contribution to tourist income.

Q2 How could we be more effective?
By the better use of more volunteers
 It is very important that as many people as possible respond to the survey by the closing date of 1 November, so get your friends and neighbours to include footpaths in their response.
 

Mid-week walks

A big thank you to Barbara Phelps who has kindly volunteered to co-ordinate mid-week walks on days other than a Wednesday. As a result, you will see from the walks programme that we have about a dozen walks (mainly on Tuesdays) of varying lengths and times of day to enjoy this summer.

 

Dogs & ground nesting birds

There has recently been comment in the media about dogs and the problems they may cause to ground nesting birds during the breeding season. The advice from the Ramblers is that dogs can be prohibited from areas where birds are ground nesting, and that walk leaders should explain this in advance in the walks programme by stating that a particular walk is “Not suitable for dogs” or “Dogs on leads please”. In fact, the Ramblers recommends that dogs are kept under close control at all times, and kept on a lead on roads, near livestock or sensitive wildlife, where the terrain requires careful footwork and wherever the law or other official regulations require it. If walk leaders discover that ground nesting birds may be an issue after the programme has been printed, please ensure that dog owners are aware at the start of the walk and that they take the necessary action. And, please clean up after your dog.

Help with the London Loop

Dear walkers,

 Having walked some of the Strategic Walk Network for London, either on your own or as part of one of our guided walking weekends, you may just be interested in adopting a section to walk more often (three times a year)  and keep us informed of any issues along the way. With 350 miles and 7 routes to look after our route managers have a lot to do and benefit enormously from eyes and ears on the ground to keep them abreast of issues that have arisen since their last survey. We are currently recruiting for keen people to adopt one of the 24 sections on the LOOP, having a successful scheme in place for the Capital Ring already.

 To see what's involved, please visit the Walk London website
 (
http://www.walklondon.org.uk/latest_news_detail.asp?News=140) to read  the Role Description and Application Form. If you want more details then  please email or ring the project director, Alexandra Rook on
 
Alexandra.rook@walklondon.org.uk or T 07811 465880.

 We look forward to hearing from at least 24 of you!

 Alexandra Rook
 Project Director
 07811 465880

Walking holidays & Ramblers Insurance

As mentioned in the last programme, the Ramblers has now made it a requirement that for any walking holiday (or any walk involving an overnight stay) to be  covered by its civil liability insurance policy it has to be considered an official Ramblers walk, and therefore

• be approved by Group Committee (or Area if being organised by the Area);
• have an overall organiser who ideally is confident in the ability of Walk Leaders to lead each walk and who will vary the programme of walks if circumstances (e.g. weather) demand;
• have a designated Walk Leader for each walk, and ideally a backmarker who are both members; and 
• be publicised in advance.

t would therefore be helpful if anyone considering such an activity could contact Mike Bruce (our Walks Secretary) at an early stage of the planning at (preferably) enquiries., and he will ensure the committee deals with the request as quickly as possible.  See http://www.ramblers.org.uk/volunteer/insurance for details of The Ramblers Insurance.

Social Secretary

We still have a vacancy for a Social Secretary to help plan & coordinate our social events and activities. We are not looking for a person to organise everything themselves, but someone who can get a group of people together to help arrange a quiz night or Group dinner, etc. Interested? Please contact Lawrie Smith smith.l@ntlworld.com or 0208 777 8206 for further information.

Freedom Passes

Those of us who are over 60 will be pleased to hear that Freedom Passes can be used on all "Transport for London" services twenty four hours a day with effect from 2nd January. Before you get too elated it appears that National Rail services are not included. Those of us in South London will not be able to travel to London early in the morning. Those in other parts of London will be able to use the underground to get to London twenty four hours a day.

Details are to be found here

Happy Birthday Bromley Ramblers

We have recently celebrated our 20th birthday and if you would like to know more about the origins of Bromley Ramblers Annie has researched it and produced a short history history

Walker friendly pubs

Royal Oak, Crockham Hill
A couple of years ago it was suggested to walk leaders that they should consider not using the Royal Oak at Crockham Hill for lunch as it was not particularly friendly towards ramblers.

The pub has since been bought from Shepherd Neame by The Westerham Brewery. The new owners have confirmed that .... "as Crockham Hill is home to one of the foremost writers of walking books we hope to restore the venue to its rightful place as a welcoming place for walkers and ramblers".

The Harrow in Knockholt.
Mike H tells us that he thought that our members would wish to know that there are new and friendly landlords at "The Harrow" who very much welcome walkers.

The Cock , Ide Hill
We were there on a Wednesday in Nov-10 and the new people were as nice as pie.  previously we have not been made welcome.

The Padwell pub in Stone Street (TQ569550)

Just dropping you a line on behalf of The Padwell pub in Stone Street (TQ569550) to let you know that the place is now under new ownership, and we'd very much like to welcome you in should you ever be passing through our neck of the woods (historic trackways, glorious countryside, orchards – we’ve got the whole rural Kent thing going on up here !)

If there's a few of you who might like to drop by, please feel free to give us a ring (01732) 761532 in advance, and we'll make sure that we have plenty of beer put by and prepare some suitable snacks. Don’t feel obliged to take advantage of our menu, though, you’re more than welcome to pop in, take a seat and eat your own food if you have any – no problem whatsoever.

We appreciate that our standard pub fare might not be ideal for walkers or outdoor sorts looking to burn a few calories, so if you have any ideas about suitable meals that we could make available, please let us know – sounds corny, but we’re here to give you what you want, so don’t hesitate to tell us what that might be.

What we'd really love is to get some dialogue going, and find out what you'd like the pub to provide for your group in the long term - we really want to become one of your preferred destinations or stop-off points, so please drop us a line and we'll see what we can do to make you feel really welcome, whether it’s a particular range of snacks or meals, boot waterproofing wax behind the bar, spare laces, a stiff brush hose for emergency dog cleaning or a bowl of hot water for aching feet !

Rob

I have recently been contacted by the new owner of Farleigh Golf Club, Old Farleigh Road, Nr Selsdon, CR6 9PE. They are happy for walking groups to use their car park and to use the Clubhouse for toilets and refreshments. You may wish to pass this information on to those who lead walks for your Groups as it could be a good starting point for walks. If you do plan to use this as a starting point, I suggest you let Marc Hayton know (01883 627711).

Discounts at Outdoor Clothing Stores

Ramblers have nationally negotiated a 10% discount with Cotwold  Outdoor. To obtain this you need to show your Ramblers membership  card. This applies to members of all Ramblers groups.

Bromley Ramblers however have negotiated a 15% discount. To obtain  this, you need to show your Ramblers membership card showing that you are a member of Bromley group and quote our account number which is B 2190. We were concerned that our 15% discount may in due course be replaced by the new Ramblers national 10% discount but apparently our extra discount will remain.

Not to be outdone  Millets, Blacks and Trespass (there's one in the Glades in Bromley) also given 10 % discount on production of your Membership card and so do Rohan (Covent Garden)..


Boot Covers

Several members have asked about boot covers (or overboots) for use when going into pubs, teashops, etc.  We have found that we have had a good service from Jackie Somers who makes these items herself under the name of the Houghwood Manufacturing Company.  She also makes other items such as gaiters and waterproof nylon sacs.  Items are manufactured and dispatched as a result of a phone call and you are trusted to send her a cheque.  Jackie can be contacted on 01744 894 435 or emailed at houghwood@fsmail.net.  You may like to mention Bromley Ramblers when you contact her. We offer this information as a service to members as a result of the good service received in the past.  They don't have a website so I have included a link to their old brochure here and here.  Please note that  Jackie is running down (her stocks) with a view to retirement but she is still supplying now. She recently sent us a Price list and a Brief History  of the company showing what she still makes.  If anyone finds out that she has finally wound her last bobbin please tell me at  enquiries@bromleyramblers.org.uk so we can remove this entry and leave her in peace.

Register of Walk Leaders

The Ramblers Association have asked that all walk leaders and walk coordinators complete an online form at www.ramblers.org.uk/volunteer/ledwalkform, details are on page 18 of the current "Walk" magazine.  They wish to use this information to send all walk leaders a "Led Walks" newsletter covering issues which are relevant to walk leaders.  You are encouraged to register with the Ramblers Association but there is of course no compulsion to do so.  In parallel with this exercise Mike Bruce (Walk Secretary) is compiling a register of email addresses and telephone numbers for all Bromley Group walk leaders.  It would be helpful if walk leaders could send this information to Mike at enquiries when they complete the RA online form

Volunteers for Short Sunday Walks

Do you have a favourite walk that you could share with fellow ramblers ?  Could you commit – perhaps just once a year – to leading a short local walk, perhaps with a friend or with another leader ?  Volunteers are urgently sought to help with short Sunday walks; no previous experience necessary, just a desire to “give back a little” and of course, to walk.  Any assistance that you require will be gladly given.  Jean P can be contacted on enquiries – and is looking forward to your email.

Walk Leaders

It would be very helpful, please, if all walk leaders, when submitting walk details to coordinators for the programme, could include a short description of the start point or directions to the car park, for those without O/S maps.  Could you also please provide the number of miles from Bromley North Station to the start of the walk (so that the voluntary passenger contribution can be calculated).  This will save coordinators a lot of time and ensure we get details correct in the programme.  There is a list of many of the car parks we use, their distance and passenger contribution here that should help. Many thanks.

Footpaths Officer

Philip Wall (one of our regular Wednesday walkers) has very kindly agreed to take on the role of Footpath Officer.  Many thanks Philip.  His contact details are on the inside front cover of this programme.  His role will be to protect public rights of way in the borough on behalf of the Ramblers' Association and to liaise with Bromley Council and landowners.  A team of ward based 'wardens' are already in place to help Philip and to ensure the footpaths of Bromley are available for everyone. Contact Philip at  enquiries

Email Address List

Mike B sends regular emails to many people who walk with Bromley Ramblers. It would be good to have the email addresses of more of our members so we can contact you at short notice, for example if a walk is snowed off.  Thus we would be grateful if you would go to the Members Page and follow the simple instructions to add yourself to the list. You can also remove yourself there at any time as well if you wish.

The AGM

Another AGM has been and gone. 

(If you're one of those strange people that likes to read reports of AGM's and committee meetings you are in for a treat because you can look at them all here).
AGM 2008
Annual Report 2010
Committee minutes 20.11.08
Committee minutes 24.02.09
Committee minutes 02.06.09
Committee minutes 14.09.09
Committee minutes 17.11.09
Committee minutes 22.02.10

Committee minutes 22.06.10
Committee minutes 22.09.10

Please Note

Lawrie has included a guide on how best to use a compass and map  for you navigators as well as explaining what 'right of way' really means. It really works, especially the  "Using Map & Compass Together" part.

 

 

   

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